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SiDiary => SiDiary English => Thema gestartet von: StuPC am September 22, 2005, 10:50

Titel: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am September 22, 2005, 10:50
What an absolutely fantastic idea, using your mobile phone to store all your blood test readings!  Congratulations to the folks at SiDiary for implementing this.  :)

However, I do have one small question/problem - are there likely to be any further bugfixes/upgrades for the java mobile client, as I'm running it on my new Sony-Ericsson w800i, and finding it very helpful, EXCEPT for the fact that I can't synch my mobile and my PC, not by Bluetooth or by normal file transfer.  :kratz:

Is this problem one that's likely to be solved or not?

Cheers,
StuPC
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: Alf am September 22, 2005, 17:41
Hi StuPC,

thanks a lot for your post. Of course we are always fixing errors or working on workarounds, including the Java-package.

Unfortunately there's one constraint with the bluetooth-sync, which isn't a bug but a feature. :(  :nixweiss:

Some manufactures decided to not grant bluetooth access to Java applications. That means that although your mobile has built-in bluetooth functionality probably Sony-Ericsson has no support of "Java-Bluetooth". This is a problem that are discussing many many Sony-Ericsson mobile users about in other forums. We definitely know that S.-E. K700i is one of such mobiles which have bluetooth support but it's denied to all Java apps.  :mauer:

We will try to provide alternate syncing procedures but so far there's no applicable way of transferring your data... :-\

Patrik will check, if your w800i also has no Java-Bluetooth support...

Cheers, Alf.
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am September 22, 2005, 19:09
Ahh...
Thanks very much, Alf - that actually explains quite a few other things, too!  :)  Tsk, stupid Sony-Ericsson.

I assume something similar also explains I can't synch using the connection cable as well?

Best,
Stu
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: Alf am September 22, 2005, 20:08
Exactly! The S.-E. doesn't have a file system like the Symbian os mobiles... :-\

But it could be a valid idea to provide a sync based on "Java-Wire"Class instead of "Java-Bluetooth"?!

Patrik????
Both would be serial communication, do you see chances for that??

Cheers, Alf.
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am September 27, 2005, 14:34
Sorry, Patrik, I don't know you - but what do you think?  ;)
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: patrik am September 29, 2005, 10:40
Hi StuPC, Sony Ericsson w800i should support both Java-Bluetooth and File-Access packages. What can you see under "Menu->Navigation->Maintenance" ?
Best,
patrik
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am September 29, 2005, 16:55
Hi there Patrik,
thanks so much for getting back to me - very much appreciated.

I can see the following:
Profile
BG-Grid
Enter data
Statist.
Trend
Settings
Maintenance
Reminder
Exercise
About

Hope this is helpful.
Best,
StuPC
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: patrik am September 30, 2005, 10:08
Hi StuPC, well, this is if you go to 'Menu->Navigation'. But you have to go to 'Menu->Navigation->Maintenance'. What can you see?
Best,
Patrik
ps: sorry for my english
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am September 30, 2005, 15:24
Terribly sorry, Patrik - your written English is fine, it's my reading of it that needs improving.  :rotwerd:

Right, my 'phone has the following:

BT Synchronisation
File Synchronisation
Delete Data
Check avail.mem


However, SiDiary always fails to discover any connection when any of these options are activated on my phone.  If I try to synch using my PC I get the message that I do not have the SiDiarySmartSynch software installed, even though I've installed absolutely everything.

Best regards,
StuPC
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: Adrian am September 30, 2005, 15:31
Hi StuPC,

did you install it as Administrator.
I had the same problem while working as a restricted user.
Some dll#s couldn't be registred.

bye
Adrian
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: patrik am September 30, 2005, 17:24
Hi StuPC,
well your phone also support both Java-Bluetooth and File-Access packages. I think, fileaccess will failed, there is a bug in your version. Do you have a Bluetooth-Adapter for your PC? If yes, you have to read sync dokumentation(Synchronisation.doc) that you can find in %SiDiary%\Install\Java mobile folder.
by
patrik
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am Oktober 03, 2005, 09:48
Hello again.
yes, I have a Bluetooth adaptor (always check the obvious possibilities first, eh? ;) )  And good suggestion, Adrian - but I did install as administrator.
I'll check the sync documentation tonight and see what happens.  Thanks again for the advice.
Stu
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: StuPC am Oktober 04, 2005, 16:27
 >:(  No joy.  The PC spent about 10 minutes going through the various COM ports (up to number 8) but never managed to connect to the SiDiary program on my mobile (which was connected via the USB connection).

I tried again with the Bluetooth, but although my PC and my phone definitely were connected the SiDiary refuses to acknowledge it.

Do you have any ideas why my PC version of SiDiary keeps telling me that I don't have the synch software module installed whenever I click on the SiDiary synchronisation icon?  Is this a bug in the software??  It doesn't even try to connect to the phone, just instantly comes up with the same message every time...

Thanks for your ongoing help with this issue.
Best,
Stu
Titel: Re: java-mobile compatibility
Beitrag von: Alf am Oktober 10, 2005, 23:28
Hi,

maybe there's a misunderstanding regarding the sync for Java mobiles? The Smartsync-component does all sync work for Windows devices. The Java devices cannot be connected with ActiveSync (which is the underlying layer for SiDiary's Smartsync).

The message could have the reason that your system does not contain the msvbvm60.dll (i.e. Win98 doesn't have it by default). You could either add this file to your system directory or update SiDiary with the current package from the download-updates section. BUT this message has absolutely no influence on the Java sync, which needs to be started from the device import button.

If you have installed and configured the bluetooth incoming connection from your mobile correctly you should have assigned a specific com port number. So from that point you can select this com port directly within the Java mobile driver...

Do you have established the bluetooth connection as an incoming com connection as described in the document?

Cheers, Alf.